Well submissions have now closed and I wish to thank all of the residents who put in you submissions not just to the immediate Girral Roaders but for the entire Thagoona suburb. To me the response showed the people do genuinely care about our bit of Aus and prepared to walk the walk which puts as all in a great place when we need to return to the trenches for the next fight if needed. Thank you all Thagoonerites and stay dry…. From flooding that is ,not the grape or hop, we support our farmers don’t we. 😜😜😜🍷🍷🍷
Update Friday 9th June. 2023
Please Take Note Submissions are closing Monday 12th June and those who wish to have a say in your future see below.🔽🔽
👀👀 https://www.ipswichplanning.com.au/making-a-submission-about-an-application
If you need help please go below to Comment Section
Update, Wednesday 7th June 2023
Below a Document that you may need to reference in the future..
Update Saturday 3rd June.
Plain Talk Time.. In certain forums this group has been described as NIMBY, or Anti Development. That is not the case. What we are after is a sustained development, controlled development, and development that respects existing residents and our wildlife. We all know development is inevitable and accept that but we have to get our existing problems fixed, not compound them.
ITS SUBMISSION TIME.. June 12 is the Closing date for submissions on this project.. I urge all who feel concerned about your neighbourhood, wildlife, lifestyle to show your concerns via this process. I will remind you submissions are from single residents not households, so if you have one or more occupants they too are entitled to submit a submission from the same household. A word of advice when making your submission, focus your concerns on actual issues ie. Noise,environmental, roadways, intersections ,flooding, pollution ect. as they get more weight in the overall decision processes. The place to commence your Submission is Application Reference 13198/2022/CA. https://www.ipswichplanning.com.au/making-a-submission-about-an-application
https://www.ipswichplanning.com.au/making-a-submission-about-an-application
Street Meet…
In the past days a meeting was held on Girral with Councillor and Council Employees in regard to the proposed development and the implications it will have on lower Thagoona flood plain. A substantial number of residents attended for the brief and their concerns were highlighted and in my humble opinion Council were made aware we do our homework and we are following every single phase of their development very closely. The importance of what I call “Getting it Right the First time from Day one” when getting Headworks and infrastructure in place then tested BEFORE opening up the construct crush was made clear to all OR we will be playing catch up as Lower Thagoona is playing now. That needs to be rectified as a priority. I would also thank the Councillor and employees for their efforts in the information process we all appreciate each area has its own unique issues and their efforts to appease the masses.
info for your Submission maybe. https://www.ipswich.qld.gov.au/about_council/initiatives/environment/waterways/floods
Update 25/5 Please take the time to be currently informed..
Update, Update, 17/5
SEWERAGE IS HEADING TO DOWNSTREAM TO Lower Thagoona on a flood plain
Our most dedicated research people have discovered the sewerage plan for the proposed estate
IN Document 16 Appendix G Civil Engineering etc has, on page 87 of 132 a picture showing sewerage main coming from development down the unnamed gully and the reserve to a pump station at Kavanagh St East.
This construction project will effect Girral and Tarana Avenue residents who back onto the nature strip that empties into the culvert that runs under Karrabin Rosewood Road then into Banyla Reserve then down to the Railway Underpass at Kavanah East and Kavanah roads area which floods, hence with a another obstruction to flow pushes back the water in Adelong and above.
Upstream in the Gully and Banyla Reserve have been projects of many years of solid work from residents preserving our natural wildlife and they are now under a death sentence.
This is not acceptable full stop.
We are still in limbo with water issues from the shopping complex and now I hearing proposed estates on the farmland on McGearys Road throws all the balls on flood mitigation back into the air..
This in my mind the entire Thagoona Development has not been well thought out and we are playing Russian roulette on when the problems will hit, then they make it up as we go.. and we are finding it extremely hard for our elected representatives to show up.
ON THAT NOTE IS TIME FOR PLAIN SPEAKIN.
Since this issue has hit all our front doors we have been fortunate to have some very learned people combing the documents to weed out truth on exactly what is going to happen.
Hidden in reams of pages they have had to spend sleepless nights I’m sure discovering details the average person has no time or skill to delve into the intricacies of estate development, but their learning.
Monday our council released Public Plan 2024 Consultation paper https://ipswich.isoplan.com.au/eplan and the nice glossy presentation looked great but for the average Mr, and Mrs Rate Payer they want the facts on what is exactly what is going to impact on them.
Plain speakin in my mind is the condensed versions on all proposed Roadworks, Traffic, water Headworks so people can find the facts then make their own decisions. Open and Transparent.
Ie. Headworks on Stirling Estate, Sewage Plan, Impact on wildlife and it goes all in one place where a ratepayer gets direct accessible information.
That should be a service from council to their customers, Us, and not lap dogging to developers who may find it very uncomfortable with that open scrutiny easy to find info , hence the burying strategies.
We can’t expect our elected representatives the be all across the estate development issues but they should be able to find the answers or people who are paid to explain it, and the data we need in layman’s terms rather than put it in a form a legal eagle has to interpret, meanwhile the longer it takes to get responses the greater the heat in the kitchen gets, and that won’t go away.
I remind you punters we have a council election in under 12 months and we should pay on performance. I fully understand the need and the push for housing in Australia, but that need need not be at the expense of the people who spent lifetimes creating a place that is seen today. It should be a partnership to a new ongoing future, but it seems the blow in developers have the councils or councillors attention… remember that come polling day,and don’t discount any of you having a run at council or supporting a local that knows our culture and can represent our community from life experience
Yes I’m Now Really Grumpy. End.
Update 13/5 to all interested, the below link is the UPDATED information and a large document (485 pages) in reference to the intricate details released by council and developer. It will download to your files folder and you access the full documentation. I cannot summarise the entire package and would not try however but please take the time to research as it impacts on each of us in different ways. It is much better viewed and navigated on a computer….
https://edoc.ipswich.qld.gov.au/objective/download.php?id=A8842779&ext=pdf&env=iccecm&plat=pwy
Calling Residents in Lower End of Thagoona (Flood Zone) 9/5/2023
Thank you all for your interest in this project at the top of Girral Road, and although we closer to the actual site have our issues, the residents of lower Thagoona will have its own issues that will impact we believe on increase in flooding.
The council documentation we have viewed are factoring in a increase in water flow on a estate that has a history of uncontrolled and unplanned water management.
It’s not new that council is aware of your present issues but this new estate will compound your problems a significant amount, and that is not bringing the tavern and complex in Bryant’s Paddock into the equation.
I feel residents in the existing flood zones should have a say and using the power of the people consider forming a seperate group from us in Girral and add your voice in the process, as your submissions will have the valued the experience of benchmarking existing problems and projecting damage when flows increase.
I have spoken to several residents who are shocked, and think neighbourhood action is needed and it’s vital every resident be prepared to raise a submission to the council separately and one as a group.
In closing may I say I am not against development BUT the logical process would have infrastructure in place to cope with existing and projected flows BEFORE development commences.
Over to you Lower Thagoonerites and remember we are all in the same boat here but it’s a bit unseaworthy at present.
Submissions Close 12th of June 2023.
Please contact if group is activated and your welcome to use this blog as a news outlet. ..
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Useful Links
Map Search – Ipswich City Council::
https://www.ipswich.qld.gov.au/services/searches-and-enquiries/map_search
Making a Submission to Council::
Making a Submission About An Application – Planning & Development (ipswichplanning.com.au)
What is a 1% AEP?::
How do we estimate the chance of a flood occurring? | Office of the Queensland Chief Scientist
Terms used in Hydrology::
What is Afflux in Hydraulic Flood Modelling and why is it so important? – SWM Consulting Pty Ltd
Hydrologists and stormwater engineers
StormFlood Engineering – We provide specialist flood repor
FYI …Council in Roswood Today 4/5 ..Drakes .. distributing https://www.shapeyouripswich.com.au/new-ipswich-planning-scheme
Letter box Drop coming your way,
Look out for the girls doing the letter box drop for more information …
Primary link Application Reference 13198/2022/CA https://developmenti.ipswich.qld.gov.au/Home/ApplicationSearch
The Girral Grump 
I live next to that 4 meter flood sign, my house has already been flooded twice with existing infrastructure. 4 solid hours of rain and my house is innendated. The reserve land has all of Thagoona, and Mt Marrows water diverted towards it and the only outlet is the un named Gully that runs under the rail bridge on kavanagh Rd East. Not to mention the devastating effects of the Black snake Gully when it bursts its bank ( which is every time there is a significant rain event )
Unbeknown to the surrounding resistants, once the water passes under the rail bridge there is no causeway or creek to channel the water across the hundred of acres of dead flat farm land. So, if Black snake Gully is flooded and the every causeway it the suburb is flooded there is almost 100% chance the Seven mile will be flooded it doesn’t take a engineer to work out that the water hits a dead end an starts to flood the estate, starting with the houses directly adjacent the Unname Gully on Adelong Avenue.
The Ipswich City Council have stated that Adelong Avenue pavement, drainage and culvert may be upgraded in the next few years but strongly State “Only if we can find the funds”
So until then poor old forgotten Thagoona just gets pushed aside. For heavens sake they can’t even mow the roadside grass or maintain the current overland drainage shit fight. I would like to know who the local member is as I have a 200 odd page Flood study and Flood management plan for Thagoona I’d like to table. This document backs every I state and more.
What ever it takes I will help fight this development
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We will be in touch I assure you.. and thank you..
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I am very interested in this and the flooding effects of this (yet another) new estate. However I am nit very good at following the flow of water and engineering etc. It looks like the 10 year period mentioned does not include 2011 and I know that the ICC flood maps are incorrect and the instrument used for their research wasn’t valid.
I would like to meet up with you sometime to obtain a better understanding of the situation for Thagoona.
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I’ll be in touch..
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